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		<title>Aren’t there many different paths to God?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shouldn’t Christians just leave people alone? After all, if all religions feel fulfilling to those that follow them, why try to get people to change their beliefs? You may have heard people say that there are many roads up the mountain, but they all eventually lead to the same point at the top. I guess [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="margin:0 0 5px 15px;border:1px solid #ccc;padding:3px;" title="thinking" src="http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/thinking.jpg" alt="thinking.jpg" width="125" height="164" align="right" />Shouldn’t Christians just leave people alone? After all, if all religions feel fulfilling to those that follow them, why try to get people to change their beliefs? You may have heard people say that there are many roads up the mountain, but they all eventually lead to the same point at the top.</p>
<p><strong>I guess it depends whether religion is like insulin or ice cream.</strong> For example, I prefer chocolate ice cream, while you might prefer vanilla, or butter pecan, or strawberry, or … great, now I’m hungry. But regardless of what your favorite flavor is, there’s nothing wrong with choosing one instead of another; it’s a personal preference. If someone told me they liked mint flavor best, I wouldn’t respond by saying “What the heck’s wrong with you?” or “How dare you choose mint instead of chocolate, you big jerk!”</p>
<p>The point is this:<br />
<em>That’s the beauty of ice cream &#8211; you can choose what you prefer. When it comes to medicine, however, it doesn’t make sense to choose what you prefer. Rather, it’s essential to choose what heals. It would be silly to choose NyQuil over penicillin simply because it tastes better.</em> (Greg Koukl)</p>
<p><strong>When choosing ice cream, you choose what you like. But when you choose medicine, you choose what heals you.</strong> Religion isn’t like ice cream, where you should choose whatever “tastes best”. You need to choose what’s true. The truth is often tough, but that doesn’t mean we should just ignore it and choose what we like.</p>
<p>Jesus didn’t claim Christianity is ‘true like ice cream’. He didn’t say “Come, follow me, it’ll be fun!”. He in fact claimed something very specific, contradicting every single religious (or non-religious) person who lived before him. He claimed that it’s impossible to “earn” our way into heaven, and in fact need to trust in God (who Jesus himself claimed to be in human form) instead of trusting our own failing efforts.</p>
<p><strong>But isn’t that pure arrogance?</strong> Isn’t that intolerant? Doesn’t it sound presumptuous for Christians to claim they have “the truth” and all other religions are wrong? Well, only if truth is like ice cream. If someone is dying and needs medicine, you need to give them what will heal them, not what they like best. In the same way, Jesus gives us what we need, and ultimately what is best for us.</p>
<p>There are many different paths, but they don’t all eventually lead to the top of the same mountain. Some veer off to the left and the right; others climb entirely different mountains! And if God is real, truth about God is not like ice cream; it’s like medicine, and <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/jesus-christ/">only what is true can heal</a>.</p>
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		<title>All Beliefs Welcome, Unless &#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A great blog by Tom Gilson, Thinking Christian, has an equally great post dismantling a Washington Post article that epitomizes the double-standard of &#8220;tolerance&#8221; applied against the Christian faith (and often other faiths too, but most often the Christian faith) in modern western society: “All Beliefs Welcome, Unless They are Forced on Others” There is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="margin:0 0 5px 15px;border:1px solid #ccc;padding:3px;" title="O RLY?" src="http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/orly.jpg" alt="O RLY?" width="180" height="136" align="right" />A great blog by Tom Gilson, <a href="http://www.thinkingchristian.net">Thinking Christian</a>, has an equally great post dismantling a <em>Washington Post</em> article that epitomizes the double-standard of &#8220;tolerance&#8221; applied against the Christian faith (and often other faiths too, but most often the Christian faith) in modern western society:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/09/all-beliefs-welcome-unless/trackback/">“All Beliefs Welcome, Unless They are Forced on Others”</a></strong></p>
<p>There is a weasel word used here: &#8220;forced&#8221;. The original article title mentions &#8220;forcing&#8221; beliefs on others, while the article itself is really talking about when people &#8220;take their theology out in public&#8221;. Of course we would never want anyone to try to &#8220;force&#8221; their religious beliefs; but what&#8217;s wrong with sharing our faith (in love) with others?</p>
<p>If Christians truly believe we have found the greatest love, greatest hope, and greatest truth in the world, why would it be wrong to winsomely share that faith? I might argue it would in fact be wrong to keep such a wonderful thing secretly to ourselves!</p>
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		<title>On Religion: I&#8217;m Okay, You&#8217;re Not Okay?</title>
		<link>http://www.whyfaith.com/2008/07/17/im-okay-youre-not-okay/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The title of Thomas Harris&#8217; still popular book &#8220;I&#8217;m OK, You&#8217;re OK&#8221; came to mind today. (I can almost hear my high school English prof: &#8220;OK is not a word! The word is spelled OKAY!&#8221;) I have never read the book, but according to the always reliable (*coughs*) Wikipedia entry (linked above) the four basic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="border:1px solid #ccc;margin:0 0 5px 15px;padding:3px;" title="thumbsuprainbow" src="http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/thumbsuprainbow.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="189" align="right" />The title of Thomas Harris&#8217; still popular book &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_OK,_You%27re_OK" target="_blank">I&#8217;m OK, You&#8217;re OK</a>&#8221; came to mind today. (I can almost hear my high school English prof: &#8220;OK is not a word! The word is spelled OKAY!&#8221;) I have never read the book, but according to the always reliable (*coughs*) Wikipedia entry (linked above) the four basic &#8220;life positions&#8221; explained in the book are:</p>
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<li>I&#8217;m Not OK, You&#8217;re OK</li>
<li>I&#8217;m Not OK, You&#8217;re Not OK</li>
<li>I&#8217;m OK, You&#8217;re Not OK</li>
<li>I&#8217;m OK, You&#8217;re OK</li>
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<p>Which of these life positions best describes the various world religions?</p>
<p>One of the most prevalent today, IMHO, especially in secular society, is #4: I&#8217;m OK, You&#8217;re OK. This is the pluralist approach &#8230; all roads lead to Rome, all paths lead to the top of the mountain, etc. &#8220;You believe in and worship Jesus?&#8221; someone might say, &#8220;That&#8217;s great &#8230; <em>for you</em>.&#8221; Or &#8220;You believe in Muhammad, Krishna, or <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2006/07/12/jesus-vs-adi-da/">Adi Da</a>? Wonderful &#8230; <em>for you</em>.&#8221; This life position often takes the colloquialism &#8220;Whatever makes you happy &#8230;&#8221; Of course, even here there are limits &#8230; ex, &#8220;You believe and worship Satan? &#8230; Um. That&#8217;s &#8230; um, great &#8230; *cough* &#8230; &lt;changes subject&gt;&#8221;</p>
<p>#1 is less prevalent but still abounds: I&#8217;m Not OK, You&#8217;re OK. This is a self-depreciating position. It imagines that everyone else is good, and I am markedly inferior to them. I must admit sometimes I fall into this sort of thinking myself, and this sort of unhealthy guilt is sometimes unfortunately common in Christian circles. After all, doesn&#8217;t the Bible even say <em>&#8220;consider others better than yourselves&#8221;</em>? (Philippians 2:3) More on that in a moment.</p>
<p>#3 is also prevalent: I&#8217;m OK, You&#8217;re Not OK. In fact, this is the view of most religions in the world. There is a specific set of requirements that you must pass in order to qualify. If you do those things, you pass the test and are &#8220;in&#8221;. If you, for example, pray the confession, pray five times a day, tithe 2.5%, fast, and go on the pilgrimage, you&#8217;re in! At least, pretty sure you&#8217;re in. Kinda sure. Well you don&#8217;t really know but you hope you are. And this view is seen as being pretty &#8220;intolerant&#8221; and not at all politically correct, not to mention it&#8217;s not exactly very humble.</p>
<p>#2 is probably the least prevalent: I&#8217;m Not OK, You&#8217;re Not OK. This, in fact, is the view of biblical Christianity, where we read that <em>&#8220;all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God&#8221;</em> (Romans 3:23) and <em>&#8220;If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves&#8221;</em> (1 John 1:8) &#8230; moreover, <em>&#8220;everyone who sins is a slave to sin&#8221;</em> (John 8:34). Wow! Isn&#8217;t that just excessively negative?</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;d say #2 is accurate. Real Christianity does not encourage people to wallow in self-pity or negativity, nor is it encouraged to gloss over our sins and failings, nor is it taught to think we&#8217;re &#8220;all that&#8221; (OK) and point the finger at others (not OK). Instead it recognizes that we&#8217;re all in the same boat. At least, initially.</p>
<p>The full text of the verse which contains the previous quotation (&#8220;consider others better than yourselves&#8221;) actually reads <em>&#8220;Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.&#8221;</em> When we are honest with ourselves, we know that we don&#8217;t even meet our own self-imposed standards of morality. (See &#8220;<a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2007/07/14/good-people/">Good People?</a>&#8221; for more about that.) How much more do we not live up to God&#8217;s standards?</p>
<p>But that is only stating the problem. God also provides the solution: <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/jesus-christ/">Jesus</a>. Christianity is utterly unique in that we are not saved because we are &#8220;OK&#8221;. We are saved by our acceptance of the fact that we are NOT, and our acceptance of the One who is strong enough, and merciful enough, to carry the weight for us that we cannot bear on our own, as Paul explains: <em>&#8220;God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were <strong>still</strong> <strong>sinners</strong>.&#8221; </em>(Romans 5:8)</p>
<p>Are we all OK? No. We&#8217;re all NOT. As <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=6-GxkAJ1OBU" target="_blank">John Piper might say</a>, &#8220;John Piper &#8230; is &#8230; bad!&#8221; And that includes me. But I hope I never become complacent in remembering the price that Christ paid for my freedom from sin, not by my own works that I might become conceited and prideful, but instead entirely by the grace of God. And that makes the Christian message unique, and uniquely true, among all world religions and &#8220;life positions&#8221;.</p>
<p>Resources:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2007/07/14/good-people/">Good People?</a> &#8211; Are we really OK?</li>
<li><a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/jesus-christ/">Jesus Christ: Who is he?</a> &#8211; And why does it matter?</li>
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<p><span style="font-size:smaller;">(Image credit: <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/striatic/2145725302/" target="_blank">striatic</a>, who of course does not necessarily endorse any of the content of this post!)</span></p>
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		<title>Adventures in Missing the Point: Abortion</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently Dr Henry Morgentaler was awarded the Order of Canada, which is the highest civilian honor Canada awards, recognizing &#8220;a lifetime of outstanding achievement, dedication to the community and service to the nation.&#8221; Today I read an editorial in The Calgary Herald titled Morgentaler deserves Order of Canada by Catherine Ford, ostensibly about the award, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently <a href="http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/452487">Dr Henry Morgentaler was awarded</a> the <a href="http://www.gg.ca/honours/nat-ord/oc/index_e.asp">Order of Canada</a>, which is the highest civilian honor Canada awards, recognizing &#8220;a lifetime of outstanding achievement, dedication to the community and service to the nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Today I read an editorial in The Calgary Herald titled <em><a href="http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=6198bb26-b102-4d2d-b084-8b4cf7fae892">Morgentaler deserves Order of Canada</a></em> by Catherine Ford, ostensibly about the award, but in practice a summary defense of abortion. Let&#8217;s examine her arguments to see whether they make sense.</p>
<p>(Click below for my commentary; it&#8217;s a bit long to put on the blog&#8217;s front page)<br />
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<blockquote><p>For [ensuring the rights of Canadian women to safe and legal abortions] alone &#8212; for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the right of all women to be regarded as capable of making a decision whether to bear children</span> &#8212; Morgentaler not only merits the Order of Canada, he deserves whatever accolades Canadian women can bestow upon him.</p></blockquote>
<p>The weasel-wording of the underlined portion obscures that abortion has nothing to do with &#8220;the right of all women to be regarded as capable of making a decision whether to bear children.&#8221; Certainly both sides of the issue agree that women should have the right to choose whether they will &#8220;bear children.&#8221; A woman certainly should choose whether they become pregnant or not; we are talking here however about abortion.</p>
<blockquote><p>We owe him our gratitude for his unswerving commitment to the cause of women&#8217;s health.</p></blockquote>
<p>Except, of course, for the health of all of the would-be women who were aborted. Death is usually considered less healthy than life.</p>
<blockquote><p>Few other men have fought so vigorously and so single-mindedly for so long on a principle.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope that this statement is referring to the pro-choice abortion issue only, because as a blanket statement about the male gender it is either profoundly prejudiced or shockingly ignorant.</p>
<blockquote><p>That principle is simple: All women should have the right of control over their own bodies.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree 100%. Women should have control over their own bodies. Again, few, if any, would disagree. And again the real question is obfuscated: Is the unborn merely a part of the woman&#8217;s body, like a hand or a lung?</p>
<blockquote><p>This puts the burden of responsibility &#8212; the consequences of any decision &#8212; squarely on a woman&#8217;s shoulders. That is where it belongs. It is her responsibility to make the decisions about reproduction.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree that, in one sense, the consequences of the decision fall &#8220;squarely on a woman&#8217;s shoulders.&#8221; That&#8217;s the nature of ethical decisions. But all of our laws are based upon ethics; stealing is against the law because it is wrong to steal.</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1988, the Supreme Court of Canada struck down the existing law on abortion, ruling it unconstitutional. Madam Justice Bertha Wilson said a woman&#8217;s decision to have an abortion &#8220;deeply reflects the way the woman thinks about herself and her relationship to others and to society at large. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">It is not just a medical decision; it is a profound social and ethical one as well.</span>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that we recognize that the issue of abortion is multifaceted; it is not just a logical conundrum, it is also a social and ethical issue.</p>
<blockquote><p>It is also, she wrote, almost impossible for a man to contemplate the dilemma of a pregnant woman thinking about abortion. Pregnancy remains outside any man&#8217;s personal experience and, wrote Wilson, &#8220;he can relate to it only by objectifying it, thereby eliminating the subjective elements of the female psyche, which are at the heart of the dilemma.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>While recognizing that it is impossible for a man to truly emphasize with a woman regarding the emotional issues involved with pregnancy, the insinuation that a man can then have no voice regarding such issues is a non-sequitur. Clearly according to the author of the article a man can have a right view on abortion, since she agrees with Dr Morgentaler and applauds him for his view. Dismissal of a viewpoint based on its source (the genetic fallacy) is prejudiced, unfair, and unhelpful.</p>
<blockquote><p>Those who do not approve or condone abortion are free not to have one. What they are not free to do is insist, because of their personal beliefs, abortion should not be available for a variety of reasons.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s do a simple search-and-replace on these statements: <em>Those who do not approve or condone murder are free not to murder anyone. What they are not free to do is insist, because of their personal beliefs, murder should not be available for a variety of reasons.</em> Do you see why this sort of argument doesn&#8217;t work? Pro-life advocates do not argue that since they have a personal feeling that abortion is wrong &#8220;for them&#8221; that everyone else should change their own personal beliefs to cohere with theirs. The argument is that abortion is objectively wrong for everyone.</p>
<blockquote><p>There are always a variety of reasons. Abortion for rape or incest might be permitted.</p></blockquote>
<p>First we should note that, in any ethical issue (as the author has admitted the abortion issue is) there will be hard cases that are difficult to decide. However, the existence of such potentially morally ambiguous cases should not prevent us from deciding a general rule in the vast majority of cases. (Approximately 1% women cite rape as a reason for having an abortion, while less than 0.5% cite incest.) Moreover, the fact that certain unborn children may be unwanted (perhaps even for valid reasons) should not be enough to take their lives; the homeless or sick are often unwanted and burdens, but does that give us the right to take their lives?</p>
<p>But perhaps the author of the article is merely arguing for abortion in these few difficult cases like rape and incest?</p>
<blockquote><p>One abortion &#8212; everyone should be allowed one &#8220;mistake&#8221; &#8212; could be considered acceptable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently not. Everyone should get one &#8220;oopsie&#8221;. Not only is this sort of attitude entirely cavalier towards the emotional issues involved with having an abortion (including all of the studies that have shown the extreme emotional distress often suffered by women who have abortions) but also demonstrates that she is arguing for abortion on demand regardless of the reasons why a woman wants to have one. Why then bring up the issue of rape and incest?</p>
<blockquote><p>It is an absolute within the bounds of standard medical practice, as set by the College of Physicians and Surgeons in each province.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure what this ambiguous statement means. Medically, there is little debate that life begins at conception, as Dr Landrum Shettles, the first scientist who successfully achieved conception in a test tube, notes that conception not only confers but &#8220;defines&#8221; life. The unborn is, in fact, genetically distinct from its parents and is a separate human entity. (It has human parents after all so it is thus human.) I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s within the bounds of standard medical practice to kill human beings that we don&#8217;t particularly like.</p>
<blockquote><p>He ensured our right and, indeed, our privilege, to make up our own minds about pregnancy &#8212; to be unfettered by the opinions of others or the pressures of society.</p></blockquote>
<p>This merely assumes what the author is trying to argue for, as we saw earlier. Perhaps the argument would go something like this:</p>
<p>1) Women should have the right to make up their own minds about their bodies.<br />
2) The unborn is a part of a woman&#8217;s body.<br />
3) Therefore, women should have the right to do what they wish with the unborn.</p>
<p>Well, 1) is not in dispute, as I have no interest in telling women what they can or can&#8217;t do with their bodies. It is 2) that I take issue with. It is the unproved and undefended assertion by this author which flies in the face of logic and medical evidence.</p>
<blockquote><p>Obviously, his detractors are legion. They include men who rail at the notion women alone should be permitted to decided [sic] whether to bear a child or not.</p></blockquote>
<p>Silly weasel-wording and straw-man construction (no pun intended). As above, few, if any, men would take such a view. The issue is not a woman&#8217;s choice whether or not to become pregnant, the issue is what is ethical once they are pregnant.</p>
<blockquote><p>They include a host of religions and their acolytes who demand unswerving obedience to a set of man-made rules.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope that the careful reader will notice that I have not made any appeal to religious doctrine during my discussion of abortion. (More on this in a moment.)</p>
<blockquote><p>They also include women who, for whatever reason, believe their lives should be ruled by chance, happenstance and blind obedience.</p></blockquote>
<p>Another straw-[wo]man argument. Pro-life advocates who are female are branded illogical nincompoops.</p>
<blockquote><p>So be it. That is exactly what choice entails. Every Canadian woman can now say proudly, &#8220;My life, my body, my decisions.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And again, the author loudly and proudly entirely misses the point. The entire editorial contained no justification for the view being presented, merely statement and restatement of the view and its fundamental underpinnings without any rational argument.</p>
<p>I will say that it can be easy to miss the point with a controversial issue like this one, especially when reason can quickly become clouded or overwrought with emotional issues. But all of the abortion questions can be reduced to just one: <em>What is the unborn?</em> As Greg Koukl says: &#8220;If the unborn are not human, no justification for elective abortion is necessary. But if the unborn are human, no justification for elective abortion is adequate.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>The best (short) online resource on this question is Dr William Lane Craig&#8217;s writing here, which is not, as Ms Ford might expect, based on religious reasoning:<br />
<a href="http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;id=6351">http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;id=6351</a></strong></p>
<p><em>Please read and carefully consider the argument Dr Craig above.</em> This is not merely an academic question, one where learned individuals sit around stroking their beards, smoking their pipes and waxing philosophically on their easy-chairs. As I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2007/09/04/world-clock/">posted previously</a> there are over one million abortions performed every month. If abortion really does, as pro-life advocates claim, kill human beings, that is one million morally reprehensible deaths each month.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Shout to the Lord&#8221; on American Idol</title>
		<link>http://www.whyfaith.com/2008/04/11/shout-to-the-lord-on-american-idol/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently the Christian worship song &#8220;Shout to the Lord&#8221; was performed twice on the popular TV show American Idol. The first time the lyrics were changed to remove Jesus&#8217; name for the song, while the second time the song was performed as it was originally written. See the performance below: I do not usually watch [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently the Christian worship song &#8220;<a href="http://www.metrolyrics.com/shout-to-the-lord-lyrics-zschech-darlene.html" target="_blank">Shout to the Lord</a>&#8221; was performed twice on the popular TV show <i>American Idol</i>. The first time the lyrics were changed to remove Jesus&#8217; name for the song, while the second time the song was performed as it was originally written. See the performance below:</p>
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<p>I do not usually watch the show, but other blogs suggest that the majority of the eight finalists are not Christians, although there have been many overtly Christian participants in the past (including winners Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, Carrie Underwood, and Jordin Sparks).</p>
<p><strong>What do you think about performing Christian songs on a secular TV show?</strong> Was the move to perform the song (censored and/or uncensored) by the show&#8217;s producers appropriate? There seems to be something at least a little ironic about performing a worship song on a show dedicated to making an &#8220;idol&#8221; out of someone &#8230;</p>
<div style="font-size:smaller;">(Thanks to <a href="http://www.thinkchristian.net">Think Christian</a> for their original posts on this topic <a href="http://www.thinkchristian.net/index.php/2008/04/10/american-idol-and-shout-to-the-lord/">here</a> and <a href="http://www.thinkchristian.net/index.php/2008/04/11/american-idol-and-shout-to-the-lord-take-2/">here</a>.)</div>
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		<title>Taking personal offense at truth claims</title>
		<link>http://www.whyfaith.com/2008/01/13/taking-personal-offense-at-truth-claims/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Further to my previous post, I&#8217;ve seen several other examples lately of people taking offense when Christians have the audacity to claim that the Gospel is actually true. First we have a commenter on the old Discuss DaVinci Code Blog who was apparently offended that the site claimed that the traditional biblical story of Jesus&#8217; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/surprisedbook.jpg" alt="!!!!!" width="225" height="155" align="right" style="margin:5px 0 5px 15px;">Further to my <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2008/01/09/christianity-is-true-are-you-offended/">previous post</a>, I&#8217;ve seen several other examples lately of people taking offense when Christians have the <i>audacity</i> to claim that the Gospel is <i>actually true</i>. First we have a commenter on the old <a href="http://talk.thelife.com/blogs/davinci/2006/06/09/144/#comment-14582">Discuss DaVinci Code Blog</a> who was apparently offended that the site claimed that the traditional biblical story of Jesus&#8217; life, death and resurrection is actually true. (See also <a href="http://talk.thelife.com/blogs/davinci/2006/06/09/144/#comment-14612">my reply</a> below their comments on that same page.)</p>
<p>Next we have a person&#8217;s review of the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764228382/">The Illustrated Guide to World Religions</a> by Dean C Halverson. I have not read the book, but I noticed this particular review as I was browsing Amazon today (as I do FAR too often &#8230;) Anyways, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/RAOFWSFB7O0CY/">here&#8217;s their review</a> in its entirety:</p>
<blockquote><p>The goal of this book is to teach about other religions so people can use that knowledge to convert others to Christianity. If that&#8217;s not your goal, don&#8217;t bother. I find it very offensive and am throwing it away.</p></blockquote>
<p>And my reply (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/RAOFWSFB7O0CY/">posted in reply on Amazon</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Why would you find this offensive? Are you saying all Christians should abandon their own beliefs and believe like you do? If not, what exactly are you suggesting here? As far as I know this book makes no suggestion or approval of coercive techniques of evangelism, so I don&#8217;t see the problem with attempting to more effectively share the Christian message with others who belong to different faiths.</p>
<p>If the book contains factual inaccuracies, then that is a different matter. But no viewpoint (whether it be Christian, Muslim, pluralist, secularist, whatever) is neutral, so please don&#8217;t disparage this book merely because it is written from a Christian point of view, because there is no worldview-free book about religion.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Further reading:</b>
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<li><a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2008/01/09/christianity-is-true-are-you-offended/">Christianity is true. (Are you offended?)</a> &#8211; Tackles similar themes to this post re offense at claiming something is true.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2006/07/18/tolerance/">Tolerance</a> &#8211; What is the real meaning of tolerance? Greg Koukl&#8217;s thoughts on the matter with my comments.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2006/07/20/tolerance-part-2-stating-facts-hatin/">Tolerance Part 2: Stating Facts = Hatin?</a> &#8211; Does profoundly disagreeing with someone mean you are intolerant of them? No, in fact, it gives you a wonderful opportunity to be tolerant!</li>
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		<title>Christianity is true. (Are you offended?)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over at his blog Fides Quaerens Intellectum Christian philosopher Johnny-Dee writes: I think the objection goes like this: It is wrong for you to believe that your belief is true because it implies those who adhere to other religious beliefs are wrong. This objection is rife with problems in validity and soundness, but I’d like [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/orly.jpg" alt="O RLY?" align="right" width="180" height="136" style="border:1px solid #aaa;padding:3px;margin:0 0 5px 15px;">Over at his blog <a href="http://blog.johndepoe.com/">Fides Quaerens Intellectum</a> Christian philosopher <a href="http://www.johndepoe.com/">Johnny-Dee</a> writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think the objection goes like this: It is wrong for you to believe that your belief is true because it implies those who adhere to other religious beliefs are wrong. This objection is rife with problems in validity and soundness, but I’d like to ignore all of that for now. Consider what the objector is suggesting: Christians should have a belief that they do not think is true. [<a href="http://blog.johndepoe.com/?p=422">Full post</a>]</p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes when a person expresses offense when Christians claim that Christianity is true (not just &#8220;true for me&#8221; but absolutely and objectively true for everyone) they may indeed object because they hold to an incorrect and inappropriate conception of tolerance, as I&#8217;ve commented on previously (see <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2006/07/18/tolerance/">Tolerance</a> and <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2006/07/20/tolerance-part-2-stating-facts-hatin/">Stating Facts != Hating</a>). But more often they are objecting because of a similar but subtly different reason, namely that they are making what I&#8217;ll call a category error regarding religious truth claims.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/baskinrobbins.jpg" alt="Baskin Robbins Ice Cream" align="right" width="154" height="188" style="margin:0 0 5px 15px;">When some people express offense that a Christian believes Christianity to be <i>really</i> true, they are conceiving of Christianity as being in the realm of personal (relative) opinion rather than objective truth. That is, they see choice of religion as being like choosing your favorite ice cream flavor: A person isn&#8217;t &#8220;wrong&#8221; because they prefer vanilla over chocolate. So too, the erroneous argument goes, a person isn&#8217;t &#8220;wrong&#8221; because they prefer Baha&#8217;i over Christianity. Greg Koukl talks about this using the ice cream / insulin analogy:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is significant confusion on this point.  Americans think of God, religion, and morals like ice cream and not like insulin.  They choose religious views according to tastes, according to what they prefer rather than according to what&#8217;s true. [<a href="http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&#038;id=6659">Full post</a>]</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, this raises the question of whether choice of religious belief is really like choosing our favorite ice cream flavor. Hmmm, after adding the picture above I really crave ice cream &#8230; Ahem. Like I noted in my article <a href="http://talk.thelife.com/fromtodayon/questions/arent-there-many-different-paths-to-god/">Aren&#8217;t there many different paths to God?</a> for <a href="http://fromtodayon.com">From Today On</a> (also posted <a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2007/02/17/arent-there-many-different-religious-paths-to-god/">here</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>If someone is dying and needs medicine, you need to give them what will heal them, not what they like best. In the same way, Jesus gives us what we need, and ultimately what is best for us. There are many different paths, but they don’t all eventually lead to the top of the same mountain. Some veer off to the left and the right; others climb entirely different mountains! And if God is real, truth about God is not like ice cream; it’s like medicine, and only what is true can heal.</p></blockquote>
<p><i><b>Further reading:</b> <a href="http://thelife.com/spirituality/skeptic.html">Three Tough Questions and Their Answers</a> by philosopher Michael Horner, including &#8220;Aren&#8217;t all religions the same?&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>Is &#8220;sin&#8221; merely ignorance? (Greg Koukl &amp; Deepak Chopra)</title>
		<link>http://www.whyfaith.com/2007/09/20/deepak-chopra-god-is-an-impersonal-force/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a video where Greg Koukl and Deepak Chopra discuss the meaning of faith. Click the link to see the streaming video. (6:22 long) Chopra seems to love saying what people want to hear rather than saying things that actually make sense. Is sin merely ignorance as Dr Chopra says? That seems ridiculous. Certainly if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.leestrobel.com/videoserver/video.php?clip=strobelT1122">a video where Greg Koukl and Deepak Chopra discuss the meaning of faith</a>. Click the link to see the streaming video. (6:22 long)</p>
<p>Chopra seems to love saying what people want to hear rather than saying things that actually make sense. <b>Is sin merely ignorance as Dr Chopra says?</b> That seems ridiculous. Certainly if a person truly isn&#8217;t aware that what they are doing is immoral then we cannot blame them for what they are doing. But that is <b>not</b> what sin is. <i>Sin is when people do things they know are wrong</i> &#8230; and if we are honest with ourselves we know that we sin all the time.</p>
<p>On the topic of sin, Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron encourage an evangelism style that confronts people with the Ten Commandments. They ask people if they&#8217;ve broken the Ten Commandments, and then when people inevitably admit that yes, of course they have, then therefore they are &#8220;sinners&#8221; in need of forgiveness. While true in a sense, a non-Christian could easily simply deny the Ten Commandments and their argument falls apart. After all if a person doesn&#8217;t believe the Bible is the word of God, why should they give credence to the Ten Commandments? However, IMHO it&#8217;s totally unnecessary to bring the Ten Commandments into the argument, and it works just as well without even mentioning them. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>Regardless of whether a person is Christian or not, everyone has their own moral standards; aka their moral conscience, or moral rules. And whether a person accepts God&#8217;s moral rules or not, every person must admit that they have broken THEIR OWN moral rules.</p>
<p>The question then becomes: Who do you think has higher standards when it comes to morals &#8230; you or God? If you say God has higher standards, then we&#8217;re in a heap of trouble, because we&#8217;ve already admitted that even by our own standards we don&#8217;t measure up, so that means we fall WAY short of God&#8217;s own standards, whatever they may be. If someone were foolish enough to claim that we have higher standards than God, then they would be claiming that we have greater (more just, more accurate) moral standards than the God who is the source of all moral standards, which is absurd.</p>
<p>Greg makes a great comment near the end of the video regarding &#8220;guilt&#8221;, which is also made in an article on Greg&#8217;s website:</p>
<blockquote><p>Folks, we don&#8217;t get rid of guilt through denial . We get rid of guilt through forgiveness. And that forgiveness can only come from the One whom we have offended. The One who gave the law in the first place. (<a href="http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&#038;id=5283">Read Greg&#8217;s full article here.</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Further reading:</b></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/2007/07/14/good-people/">I&#8217;m essentially a good person! What&#8217;s wrong with that?</a> &#8211; Read one of my previous articles where I discuss what it means to be a &#8220;good person&#8221;.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.whyfaith.com/jesus-christ/">Why did Jesus have to die?</a> &#8211; He paid the price for our sins so that we wouldn&#8217;t have to. The beautiful thing about grace is that it&#8217;s unfair: We don&#8217;t get what we deserve.</li>
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		<title>Is your faith a good thing? That depends &#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Melinda Penner made a thoughtful post on the nature of faith on the Stand to Reason Blog today &#8230; I think she&#8217;s &#8220;in rare form, as usual&#8221;1: It&#8217;s common these days for people to talk about how their &#8220;faith&#8221; will get them through a difficult and trying experience. This is said without qualification of what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.str.org/site/PageServer?pagename=abt_staff">Melinda Penner</a> made a thoughtful post on the nature of faith on the <a href="http://str.typepad.com/weblog/">Stand to Reason Blog</a> today &#8230; I think she&#8217;s &#8220;in rare form, as usual&#8221;<sup>1</sup>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s common these days for people to talk about how their &#8220;faith&#8221; will get them through a difficult and trying experience.  This is said without qualification of what the faith is placed in and of anyone who exhibits faith. It seems as though &#8220;faith&#8221; is usually treated as a quality which, in and of itself, has the power to endow strength, endurance, and hope.</p></blockquote>
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<li><i><a href="http://str.typepad.com/weblog/2007/08/faith.html">Click here to continue reading the full post!</a></i> (It&#8217;s really short <img src='http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</li>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small"><sup>1</sup> Extremely obscure STR inside joke</span></p>
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		<title>All paths lead to God?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do all religious paths lead to God? Greg Koukl says no, and I agree with him. Here he responds to the idea that all religions are basically the same and in a sense &#8220;all roads lead to Rome&#8221;: Click to view the streaming video: &#187;&#187; [Your browser does not support frames or is currently configured [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do all religious paths lead to God? Greg Koukl says no, and I agree with him. Here he responds to the idea that all religions are basically the same and in a sense &#8220;all roads lead to Rome&#8221;:</p>
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<p><i>&#8220;You can&#8217;t drive a computer.&#8221;</i> Thanks Greg <img src='http://www.whyfaith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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